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Posted by: Anonymous on

5:35 AM  

That's a pretty dumb comment.

Open the Scriptures, you'll see numerous instances where the disciples were fishing, and Jesus, even after His resurrection, ate a fish right in front of them.

In another instance, Peter dreamt of a banquet of all sorts of foods, including the "unclean" foods, such as pork. "Come and eat."

Granted, there is a case to be made for a Christian to be a vegetarian, and there are denominations which adhere to a strict ascetism of this sort. Certainly, in modern times, the greatest argument is not so much the killing of a living animal, (which, must I remind you, you have lost all credibility with because of your reluctance to support Terri Schiavo), but due to the horrific conditions in much of modern factory-farming. And even the Catechism of the Catholic Church dictates this.

Learn. Then type.

--Nick

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Posted by: veggiedude on

3:50 PM  

Nick, you say "Learn, then type."

I wish you would take your own advice!

I have written a thesis on this subject, so yes, I have extensively researched it. I have several books in my bookshelf that deal with vegetarianism and religion. I may be atheist, but I do have some interest in mythology and superstition, and vegetarianism is also an interest of mine.

When you quote the King James Bible, just be aware that King James had his biases, and was not all that accurate in the translation of scripts that, over the centuries, had been handed down and altered by the likes of Constantine and others whose goal it was to popularise the faith.

The difference between the historical Jesus and the biblical Jesus are as different as night and day.

For example, Jesus say's "whoso eats the flesh of slain beasts, eats of the body of death" - from Book One The Essene Gospel of Peace (Found In Vatican Library 1930)

This was already mentioned on this page of my blog.

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Posted by: Anonymous on

6:12 PM  

Nobody here is quoting from the King James version. All the manuscripts, from the Latin Vulgate to the ancient Greek papyrus rolls all had the same meaning.

However, if you wish to identify gnostics who did not eat meat, by all means, quote from non-canonized sources. The Christian populace accepted the books of the New Testament, of which the Essene Gospel of Peace is not a part of. That it was in the Vatican Library does not constitute approval, just as my library may contain books that I do not agree with.

Perhaps before you write your theses [sp?], perhaps you ought to do your homework on: (1) why the councils approved of certain books of the New Testament and why, (2) which translations were not based out of the King James documents (nearly all of the modern translations use another source), (3) why the "historical Jesus" outside of the New Testament canon is nothing more than speculation.

Class dismissed. You get an F.

Nick

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Posted by: veggiedude on

7:20 PM  

Christians say Jesus died on the cross. Muslims say no, he was saved at the last minute. Both have scriptures to back them up. I guess speculation is in the eye of the beholder. Me, I prefer to look at archeological sources.

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Posted by: Anonymous on

3:08 AM  

"Eyewitnesses" say Jesus died on the cross. "Sixth-century doubters" say no, he was saved at the last minute. Both have their own "writings" to back them up "(although one is, admittedly, more trustworthy than the other)". I guess speculation is in the eye of the beholder "(but, if I was honest, I'd just look at the original testimonial accounts and stop putting words into the mouths of folks who I wished believed as I did". Me, I prefer to look at "speculations from agenda-driven pink-higlighting theology instructors".

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